Wednesday, November 23, 2016

Alt Right - RIP



After NPI's Roman Salutes,  President elect Trump was forced to disavow the Alt Right. Most normal people can support the Alt Right ideas of self-determination, protection of borders, good trade deals, America First, etc. But normal people can't support anything that is associated with Nazism.

In my discussions with Brietbart I explained the tension between the Alt Right versus the 14/88 crowd. In general, Breitbart was sympathetic to the ideas of the Alt Right as I described them. However, they obviously did not support the 14/88 notion of the Alt Right.

Eventually, the 14/88 crowd won this battle once Richard Spencer was associated with Nazism. Of course, I don't think Richard is a Nazi. But it does not matter at this point. Whenever the Alt Right is discussed in the media, they will show the Roman Salute clip over and over. And as Richard is the self proclaimed leader of the Alt Right, the brand is now impossible to rehabilitate.

But it really doesn't matter at this point. The Alt Right was a phenomenon that helped launch Trump into the White House. Now that he has been elected, there is no need for the "alternative" label. We are now the Trump Right.

http://www.returnofkings.com/76454/what-is-the-alternative-right

24 comments:

  1. Hi, RamzPaul.

    I don't believe that the Alt Right is dead because some people did the Nazi salute. If that were the case, the anti-whites (government and NGOs) can have informants do this at any of our meetings or pretend to be Alt Right on social media and ruin every one of our strategies and we would never get anywhere.

    No, I don't agree with anybody on our side that is giving a Nazi salute or praising Hitler. This plays right into the media image of our side and it makes our movement look backwards (which is what our enemy wants).

    However, instead of us fighting with the anti-whites about this issue, we need to be counteracting their arguments when they bring up this issue with facts about how their side supports the violent Black Lives Matter Movement and it's their side that is predominately doing violent acts in general. Put them on the defensive while we remain on the offensive.

    This is the only way we will win.

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  2. "But normal people can't support anything that is associated w.." What normal people support doesn't matter right now. The election is over. It's only the Electors who will cast their vote. Only they matter now. Once Trump is in office, nobody matters. The only thing that matters to Trump then is what's right and what's wrong.
    Hopefully when the next election cycle approaches, things associated with Nazism will be supported by normal people.

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  3. The (((false flag))) has already surfaced it seems

    http://archive.is/BbBxW

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  4. We've been shamed? By an ADL/$PLC counter ops? No no no no no...

    Ogumbo hung out with terrorists and J.Wright. No one in the DNCMedia gave a rat's ass.

    Never give an inch to infiltrators and hypocrites.

    Purge ADLStormfront. Screw with the MSM.

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  5. RzP you are an ignoramus. It is utterly false to say "Nazi is a brand that doesn't translate well."

    There never was any such brand. Nazi was always a term of belittlement. You will not find any materials from the NSDAP that say "Nazi" on them.

    Marxists started using the word Nazi to refer to the competing party because it was a way to avoid mentioning that there was any alternate form of socialism.

    National-Socialism as a political perspective is not going away. Donald Trump was elected on the national-socialist principle of maximizing racial unity by combining nationalism with policies favorable to the working class.

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  6. Also the idea that giving a Roman salute equates to being a national-socialist is utterly retarded.

    When Americans give a Roman salute it is always purely for provocation.

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    1. All American children were required to give the Roman salute while reciting the Pledge of Allegiance before class each morning. That had to go when American boys were sent to die for Baruch and Schiff.

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    2. In that time and place they called it the Bellamy salute.

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  8. That's a very interesting theory on Daily Stormer. I used to visit it several times a day but recently abandoned it, so I know the theory has always been out there. You should lay out your case.

    Not that I believe that, but know you're honest so I'd like to see your take on it.

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    1. Are you serious about Ramz explaining the reasons for suspecting that the Daily Stormer is an ADL, FBI, SPLC ... operation? That's something he would have done long ago if he had anything on Anglin. Ramz is right about many fake "Nazis" being Jewish but what about men like George Lincoln Rockwell or the guys at The Right Stuff? He is jealous of Anglin's incredible success and won't acknowledge the fact that his techniques were inspired. Anglin may have used a little BS when he neglected to mention some of help he received at first and WEEV may indeed have some suspicious ancestry but the Daily Stormer has some of the best talent around and the radio podcasts they support are often brilliant. He has a lot of support from small donations given to him by working class white Christian men. It's not about collecting shekels becoming famous. Almost all of them are dedicated to saving the white race and doing it without prostituting themselves by taking shekels and being (((inclusive))) or shall we say, letting the snakes into the movement. Anyhow, Anglin is brilliant despite his checkered past and he became wildly successful. Is anyone here trying to suggest that Greenblatt of the ADL and Heidi of the SPLC are more worried about Ramz than Anglin? IF so, please explain this to us.

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    2. Very true. DS donation options (besides personal checks or money orders via mail) have been banned by the Jews. Can Ramz, Amren or any of the others who are pro white say the same? AA's DS is not only pro white but they are also un-ashamed anti Jew on all levels. Can anyone else say the same? Does anyone else come anywhere near to DS's readership and constant waves of new comers?

      The persecution proof is in the pudding!

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  9. Richard Spencer himself said he wanted the altright to be a big, diverse movement of ideas. It's that thought that attracted me to it. Because, for me, the ultimate goal is for whites to not only be conscious of their race, but embrace it like all the other races have. This will be critical for whites if they do become a minority in the US. I saw this new movement as a way to shed all the old baggage of the past by embracing new symbols and language. Because once you mention race to the average white person, the knee jerk reaction is to think Nazi. I saw the altright as a way to counter that programming and point out this is something new and that neo-nazi's and the Klan were burned out, old ideas that had nothing to do with a new white awakening. I think this was the only way to get average white people to even entertain the notion of white identity. That was blown to hell with what happened at the conference. I wasn't there, which is good, because I could see the fallout like an avg person could. It was a moment that will forever be associated with the altright. And it really puts the whole movment back. I have friends and family saying with snark that indeed this was nothing new, but was old racism repackaged. In that way the movement has been damaged for another genetation.

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  10. Richard Spencer himself said he wanted the altright to be a big, diverse movement of ideas. It's that thought that attracted me to it. Because, for me, the ultimate goal is for whites to not only be conscious of their race, but embrace it like all the other races have. This will be critical for whites if they do become a minority in the US. I saw this new movement as a way to shed all the old baggage of the past by embracing new symbols and language. Because once you mention race to the average white person, the knee jerk reaction is to think Nazi. I saw the altright as a way to counter that programming and point out this is something new and that neo-nazi's and the Klan were burned out, old ideas that had nothing to do with a new white awakening. I think this was the only way to get average white people to even entertain the notion of white identity. That was blown to hell with what happened at the conference. I wasn't there, which is good, because I could see the fallout like an avg person could. It was a moment that will forever be associated with the altright. And it really puts the whole movment back. I have friends and family saying with snark that indeed this was nothing new, but was old racism repackaged. In that way the movement has been damaged for another genetation.

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  11. we wanted our own "beer hall putsch" :) we were hoping NPI was it, but it may take longer, & may be different - we're not beholden to any past formats. perhaps it will be more of a "meme troll putsch!"

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  12. "Because, for me, the ultimate goal is for whites to not only be conscious of their race, but embrace it like all the other races have. This will be critical for whites if they do become a minority in the US."

    Yeah, whites should embrace (((diversity))) because wanting to live in all white nations is just evil and racist and homophobic and anti-Semitic. So we should just get with the program and embrace our genocide. There's the ticket!

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  13. Hey Ramz

    Well, it's been a fun ride so far but there seems to be still a disconnect. i guess my points about not punching right fell on deaf ears. No problem. Anyway, there is no doubt that (((they))) are desperately trying to divide and co-op us so I guess whats on everyone's minds now is, who legit and who's control op agents- right?

    i say, lets take a little time out to see what Spencer does. I also don't want to debate about AA and DS because I see it as a waste of time. If for example, you're control op, it doesn't matter the points I make and if not, then time will weed out exactly who's who.

    So until those future events come to pass to prove the dividing lines, let's all just sit back and wonder: hey man, is Putin and Trump just players to take out all whites who're are awakened or are this as it seems; Putin and Trump here to protect white/European interests to the detriment of the ((("Chosen"))).

    You game?

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  14. I was thinking Trump should give a new name to the faction of the GOP that supported him because it's not the same old useless GOP anymore and a new party name would reflect that.

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  15. Well, at least they didn't waste 99% of their resources and time trying to convince everything in the world that moved that they were not racists like the defunct Tea Party Movement.

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  16. See, if Richard Spencer's mentor had been William Pierce instead of that Jew Gilbert Gottfried, he would have a better idea of how to conduct himself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V13FxlU9R8A

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  17. This is not going to make you less Literally Hitler, you know.

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  18. I don't think that is necessarily true. They did nothing wrong. They are definitely not "NAZIS". National Socialists fought for the return of lands stolen from Germany. These people are not motivated by that. The stiff arm salute, when not given by Jews to discredit the alt-right, is given to mock the lying Jews for their tales of soap made from Jews fat, lampshades from their skin, in addition to all their other lies regarding Auschwitz and everything else. Websites with titles like "The Daily Shoah" do the same thing. The alt-right won't disappear.

    Sooner or later the motivating factors behind the alt-right would come out. Jews are recognized as an enemy of whites with bad intentions towards us. We knew Trump would not go that far. If he heard a Kevin MacDonald speech he might, but he grew up on Hollywood like the rest of us. Lets see how the next 4 years ago. I'm hoping the alt-right gets stronger. The Jews should be mocked.

    Sieg Heil.

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  19. listened to a podcast from 1 sept 2016: r. spencer & paul kersey talked about a big tent alt right - & they called those with slightly differing beliefs "fellow travelers" (alt lite, alt west, etc.) that's a good attitude (if it can last). folks at the top always snipe at each other over minor/moderate differences, but those differences should not be insurmountable fault lines to the masses. no enemies to the right.

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