Tuesday, November 29, 2016

The Alt Right and boundaries



Richard Spencer created a video (see below) that addressed me concerning many topics concerning the Alt Right. This is my video response to cover some of the common questions that people have raised that include:


1. What is Nazism
2. Punching to the Right
3. Disavowing
4. Cucking
5. Brand identity
6. Boundaries needed for a movement


From the list above, #6 is key. The idea that you can have a movement that has NO boundaries is insane. Yet, because some people have been fooled with the mantra "never punch to the right" and "never disavow" we now have the Alt Right brand associated with Hollywood Nazis. And as the mainstream media looks at Richard Spencer as the leader of the Alt Right, the fact that he won't explicitly disavow Nazism is fatal to the movement.  The serious thinkers have been replaced with Hal Turner and Andrew Anglin types.

I think Richard is intelligent and quite eloquent. But I fear his message will be muted and he will become the new David Duke for his generation - pulled out every 4 years by the media to try to discredit the politician he endorses.

I recommend that Spencer should explicitly disavow that the Alt Right has any connection with Nazism. If he refuses to do so, the Alt Right brand will remain toxic and attract only the kook element.

35 comments:

  1. The 'Nazis' are a bunch of emotionally damaged freaks obsessed with fancy dress and a disappeared Germany. Ceding the Alt-Right to them means the Alt-Right becomes as irrelevant and meaningless as the 'Nazis' have been for the last 70 years. The Alt-Right was not created by the Nazi but the leftists would love for the Nazis to take it over. Yet again, the 'Nazis' do the work of the leftists. Idiots and shills that they are.

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    1. No they were not. They were highly intelligent patriots that led the most advanced nation on earth, with far more Nobel Prizes than any other country and the best trained army ever. They fought for justice for Germans, they fought to stop barbarous communist Jews from spreading the terror and mass murder they were carrying out in the USSR to the rest of Europe. But they lost to a powerful foe which uses a different means to fight - World Jewry, a fanatically racist and cohesive group.

      World Jewry began the propaganda war against Germany immediately upon Hitler's election. Numerous people commented on the Jews role in starting WW II, including American hero Charles Lindbergh, but the Jews successfully did to Lindbergh what they have not been able to do to Trump.

      Jews also carried out political assassinations of German diplomats (or "NAZIS" to the typical idiot) and they paid Winston Churchill huge sums of money, starting in 1936 to attack Germany. A corrupt Churchill took the money and knowingly bankrupted and destroyed his own empire to do what the bribe money required him to do. FDR, from the safety of the other side of the Atlantic Ocean, lied and propagandized for the war, seeing the benefits for the USA. Europe would destroy itself and the USA would emerge as the leading world power. While Europe lay in ruins, not one bullet was fired on American territory (Hawaii was not a state).

      The 'Nazis' you mention are the Hollywood Nazis, created by Jews for stupid people and now the whole world is made up of stupid people (less so in Asia, where some countries have some admirers of Hitler, Germany and National Socialism). This stupidity is even in Germany where people regularly use the word "NAZI", insulting their own people and the millions of Germans who fought to their deaths for Germany.

      I'm not a leader in the alt-right, but if I had my way, the Hollywood NAZI, the creation of the Jew would be thrown in his face every day. The stiff arm salute is not support for a man that died 70 years ago or for Germany to regain stolen territory. It is an in your face "up yours" to lying Jews, who for over 70 years told discredited stories of lampshades made from their skin and soap from their fat, in addition to thousands of other lies on a daily basis in the world's mainstream media since 1945. That is how the Hollywood Nazi was created.

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    2. Keep refighting the Second World War and let us know if the outcome ever changes....... Idiot.

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    3. There is nothing idiotic about discussing real history, the truth in history, which you know nothing about. The lies have been coming out for many years.

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    4. You devote yourself to trying to rehabilitate the Nazi regime, the rest of us are in 2016, not 1940. Enjoy complete irrelevance.

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    5. It's not about rehabilitating anything. It's about correcting the WW II narrative that has been used to destroy Europe, destroy western civilization and destroy white people. Two famous quotes help explain what it is about. "Who controls the past, controls the present" and "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." The who in both questions are Jews.

      The slow genocide of white people around the world occurring now was planned and discussed during WW II already, but since you're not interested in history and you think it's irrelevant you wouldn't know that.

      Jews were leaders in developing the plans behind the genocide, but others contributed too. A New York Jew named Theodore Kaufman wrote a famous book (infamous in Germany) advocating a sterilization program for Germans. He wanted to assemble thousands of doctors working around the clock in shifts and have them sterilize the entire German population. The American press (already largely controlled by Jews in the 1940's) praised the book. The Harvard anthropologist Ernest Hooton proposed an "outbreeding" plan that would "destroy German nationalism and aggressive ideology while retaining and perpetuating desirable German biological and sociological capacities."

      'The Harvard University professor's proposal called for genetically transforming the German nation by encouraging mating of German women with non-German men, who would be brought into the country in large numbers, and of German men, forcibly held outside of Germany, with non-German women. Ten to twelve million German men would be assigned to forced labor under Allied supervision in countries outside of Germany to rebuild their economies. "The objects of this measure," wrote Dr. Hooton, "include reduction of the birthrate of 'pure' Germans, neutralization of German aggressiveness by outbreeding and denationalization of indoctrinated individuals."' The Morgenthau Plan, put forth by the American Jew and one of FDR's close associates, Treasury Secretary Morgenthau and similar plans by the USSR saw hundreds of thousands of German POW's working as slave labor after WW II, with a few thousand survivors returning to Germany in 1955.

      Since Germany's defeat, the desired goals of these plans are now achievable within the next few decades. "the German birth rate has fallen to below the replacement level, millions of racially and culturally alien migrants have been welcomed as settlers in Germany, the number of children of mixed ethnicity has sharply increased, and the ethnic-cultural character of much of the country has been drastically altered, especially in the larger cities."

      http://ihr.org/books/kaufman/perish.shtml

      I writing from Berlin, Germany right now and Berlin is an excellent example. It is not a German city any more. It is a multicultural and racially mixed city, like Paris and London.

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    6. The Jews hostility towards whites that aren't German is not on the same scale as it is towards Germans, but it is obvious. The "Frankfurt School" and "Multiculturalism" are the intellectual movements that are responsible for the slow destruction of white (and only white) ethnicities around the world. Both these movements are interrelated, Jews are leaders in both movements and the Frankfurt School came to the US in the 1930's when Hitler shut them down.

      In the US Jews led the way to make the country into a multicultural country that could see whites being a minority within the next few decades. The academic (Professor Kevin MacDonald) that exposed this is vilified by the Jews. He went into the US congressional record and documented how Jews continuously pushed for opening up immigration laws to different groups until they proposed the 1965 immigration act opening immigration to the US to the whole world. Until then, immigration to the US was primarily open to Europeans.

      http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/ReplyHistory-2.htm

      Germans and Jews were the two main adversaries in WW II. Hitler and his gov't identified the USSR as a "Jewish Bolshevik" government that was hostile to Germany and all of Europe. Jews played the leading role in bringing war with Germany about, including among other things, paying Winston Churchill huge sums of money to attack Germany.

      Jews are by far the most powerful ethnic group in the USA and the world. They dominate the media in the US and many other countries, they have pushed whites out of the USA's top universities so there are now more Jews in Harvard and the USA's other top schools than whites. They are 2% of the population and they play the lead role in running American foreign policy and domestic policies (immigration, etc.) Jews have and continue to play a dominant role in forming German policies.

      You can't understand what is happening in white countries (the west) without understanding WW II and Jews hostility towards whites. The two are inseparable.

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  2. Lets see, you've been called a Nazi, Trump has been over and over and over and practically everyone anywhere who's speech or actions the Jews don't like. Do you see Trump disavowing those called Nazis who raised their hand at his speeches they called "Nazis"? Nope, and neither will we.

    Exactly when will it be ok to say the National Socialists were right and the Jews have been lying all along about pretty much damn everything? When? When the "Jews" say it's ok? Ya, go run with that and see how far it gets you.

    The truth always comes out Ramz and you've jumped off the wave of truth as you will soon see.

    NO ONE CARES when someone's called a Nazi, a racist or anything like that anymore UNLESS they are a devout LEFTIST and in that case, who gives a sh-t? Normies in the middle, conservatives and everyone else don't care anymore and figure if the Jews or their MSM are calling someone those names, most likely they are attacking someone or something that's GOOD. Trust the Jews Media is at about 8% if you didn't notice. Daily Stormer is a MAJOR branch of the Alt Right. In fact, it is a FOUNDING SECTOR of it with more of a readership and influence than your site, Am Ren, VDares and a bunch of others PUT TOGETHER!

    That is a FACT and it isn't the youth that's running to you guys. It's running to us because we ARE THE FUTURE and they KNOW IT because they don't care what they're called anymore either.

    We have a BRAND NAME that's a household now! To say we are dead or to pussy out and go on the defensive because some people held up their hands is beyond STUPID! The fact is probably 10% of the Alt Right are actual proponents of enacting an exact copy of National Socialism in America while the rest of the so called "Nazis" are for our own version of a white, right wing , nationalist, populist movement for America that's about taking what we can salvage from NS and apply it to our platform in the future and that of course includes dealing with the "Jews" which is something you cucks who call yourself 'Alt Right" are too COWARDLY to do.

    EVERYONE CAN SEE IT- FACT!

    Never punching to the right means that you allow the LEFT to criticize the right of you, NOT YOU ON THE RIGHT!We are imitating the rules for radicals tactics but coming from the right because the left has been so successful at constantly moving the overton window in the left's direction for about 100 straight years. WE ARE MOVING IT TO THE RIGHT and you guys are standing in the way! Well, you were but now you've outed yourself and thus divided cucks for Jews from non cuck anti Jew!

    Thank you. You solved our problem for us.

    What you are doing Ramz is bowing to JEWISH PRESSURE allowing them to control the narrative. You're now a captive of theirs and their agenda.

    We to the right of you who refuse to apologize or disavow "Nazis" do so for a damn good reason. If you have not noticed, we are in the middle of a JEWISH LED WAR OF EXTERMINATION OF THE WHITE RACE! They brought this on and as far as I am concerned, anyone who "disavows" anyone who's raised their hand in jest, in reality (it was a roman salute and even American school kids were instructed to do so before WW2) or for any other reason should be disavowed by us.

    Why? Because they are shilling for the mass murderers of our race, our people, whether they know it or not and frankly, these people like yourself are to the LEFT of us.

    Wait and watch how us "crazies" take over the whole damn thing and eventually get elected and/or appointed to run the American State of the future. It won't be this year but I tell you this, as the Jews step of their racial war of extermination against us, including the upcoming collapse of the dollar to coincide with it, white people EVERYWHERE will be running to us because we're the ONLY ones willing to call a spade a spade and not wussy out at stupid Jewish slanders and labels.

    FACT! Wait, watch and see.

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    1. ''Exactly when will it be ok to say the National Socialists were right'' ? Never. Give it up and stop obsessing over a mid 20th century political movement from Germany.

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    2. If you haven't notice, WW2, Germany "Nazis" and the so called Holocaust are USED EVERY SINGLE DAY to instill UNDERSERVED guilt into not only Germans who're being genocided, but white people everywhere by the "Jews". Turn on the Hitler, oops, I mean, History channel any afternoon and all one sees (besides the constant onslaught of BS Holohoax films) a parade of anti German, anti NS, anti white identity, anti nationalist programming that doesn't end!

      IT'S NOT WE who're obsessing, it's the "Jews" and idiotic Jew shills like you who use these false narrative to keep the white man in a mental trap designed to not allow us to collectively find a justification to defend against our on going genocide.

      So if that doesn't work for you, too bad so keep licking your jew slave master's butt crack until they round you up based on your skin color and exterminate you and all your loved ones like they did to the white Russians to the tune of over 66 million.

      Nuff said....

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    3. The reason people "obsess" over who was "right" is because Jews obsess 10,000 times more over their supposed complete innocence and their own supposed terrible suffering while ignoring the suffering of everyone else. The other reason to "obsess" over it is an incredible amount of outrageous lies by Jews and the allies have already been exposed, lies showing their guilt for making the war happen. The most immediate reason to "obsess" over WW II is that Jews are using the false narrative they created to kill off whites. They have instilled guilt not only into Germans, but the entire Christian world and whites around the world are pursuing policies to make whites extinct in the next 50 years and the Jews are responsible for this.

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  3. Paul, as a fellow Oklahoman I am geographically close to you...as a patriotic American, I am even closer to you philosophically. I agree with almost everything you stated in your video response to Richard Spencer, but my friend, you are just wrong on this one.

    Of course we need to distance ourselves from agent provacateurs and morons who are out there spouting Neo-Nazi nonsense, but we should do so not in response to criticism from the MSM, but out of our own self-interest. So yes, in that sense you are correct that brandishing swastikas is both foolish and nonsensical.

    It does not follow however that we should disavow the traditional nationalism of any people. Your explanation of National Socialism was spot on. But I would take it one step further, the Alt Right is in effect the nationalist ideology of the American people just as National Socialism was the nationalist ideology of the German people. The two ideologies are nearly identical, save geographical and cultural differences. We should never allow ourselves to be goaded into disavowing traditional nationalism of any flavor, PERIOD.

    As Mr. Spencer pointed out in his video response, "we have won nothing" as of yet...at least in the sense that we have actually altered any policy of the US government. What we have won is one battle in the struggle simply to participate in the political discourse of the nation. We still have many miles to go before we can say that we've actually won a place at the table, much less won a future for our people.

    A major part of Trump's success is that he did not wilt and get all weak in the knees when the MSM called him a "Nazi" or a "fascist" or any of the other usual slurs they always drag up. The correct response to the MSM attacks on the NPI conference cannot be weakness, but must be strength.

    We should largely ignore the MSM and their attacks, except where those attacks present us with opportunities. This attack on Mr. Spencer may well be the greatest opportunity we have been presented with to date. Now that the MSM has put the spot light on Mr. Spencer and the Alt Right, they will at some point be compelled to bring Mr. Spencer on air to defend himself. And that my friend is the opportunity of a lifetime.

    The MSM will of course attempt to bring on so called "representatives of the Alt Right" which will of course be controlled opposition figures, but by singling out Mr. Spencer, they have blundered and we should be working to take advantage of their arrogance. I would like to see Professor MacDonald, Tom Sunic, Mr. Spencer and other legitimate figures of the Alt Right have the opportunity to make their case to the American people on as large a platform as can be found.

    Yes the MSM will resist this (in fact Tapper repeatedly stated that his show "would not give a platform" to the Alt Right), but by creating this controversy, they have piqued the curiosity of the masses and that means we now have a much larger audience. The MSM is trapped. If they do not allow Spencer air time to defend himself, we can easily exploit their duplicity on the venues already available to us (which are growing at a phenomenal rate). If they do allow him air time to defend himself, they provide us with a platform to reach millions.

    We are traditional nationalists and we should never shrink from being known as such. We cannot allow the establishment to define the boundaries of acceptable discourse...to do so is to embrace defeat. Our very existence is considered unacceptable by the establishment. We should wear their slurs with pride and continue marching forward. I really wish Mr. Spencer had not been quite so brutal in his denunciation of your first video on this subject, but his response to you was otherwise spot on. Perhaps it would be useful for the two of you to speak outside of the limelight. I admire both of you and our movement can ill-afford to discard such talent. Good luck and I look forward to more of your video commentary.

    Bob

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  4. This is a grindingly disingenuous video. First of all you know very well that Anglin’s use of “NAZI” symbols, memes and hyperbolic catch-phrases is ironic and meant to trigger Jews, SJWs and philosemites like yourself. His humor is so ridiculous and purpose-driven, so obvious and cartoonish that you are making yourself look like a fool by pretending to think we are too stupid to understand this as propaganda. In terms of trolling MSM and getting millions in free publicity, the tactic is nothing short of brilliant. Anglin beats Bernays and Alinsky at their own game. If Anglin took your advice, he would be little more than an obscure internet crank. Anglin is not a “neo-Nazi”; he is an incredibly articulate strategist and unlike you doesn’t treat his audience like children. Secondly, the punch-right straw-man argument regarding a prohibition on not opposing an extermination policy based upon eye color is too feeble to address. The rape analogy is inane. Appeal to the normies? How about recognizing that the masses are asses and the vast majority will simply wait to see which side is likely to win before committing.
    You characterize the movement as one that is riddled with idiots who are given to acting like “NAZIS” because true enough the Jews will call them that, so why not give them what they want? Not true, most understand that it’s pointless to try to prevent Jewish infiltrators from giving the Roman salute and anyone who cares so much about trying to please (((MSM))) that they run like little girls when this happens is merely a traitor in waiting. To use an overworked metaphor, clutch your pearls and squeal all you want. A real man, a patriot, a loyalist would never do what you, Jared Taylor, Cernovitch and Watson did to Spencer. Tainted as a NAZI! Run for your lives! Apologize! There’s the ticket. Disavow! The Jews will then welcome you back into the fold; that would be the fold between the bum cheeks. Bow down to your master Richard!
    The idea that you should give recommendations to Richard Spencer now that his visibility and stature has gone viral is stupid. First of all, the so-called normies are bored to death with philosemites like Jared Taylor, John Derbyshire, Steve Sailer and their decades of groveling and shilling for shelels while droning on about low IQ/high crime rate blacks and the supposed superiority of Jews and Asians. China is a hell-hole because it is full of soulless money hungry Chinese, most of whom live in dire poverty surrounded by pollution the likes of which is mind altering. The Chinese rarely see a blue sky and stars. And Israel is a perennial parasite. Why on earth would white men look to them for anything? Most Asians look like vegetables grown under fluorescent tubes and have the personality of canned mushrooms.

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    1. The problem with those obsessed with triggering others just for the sake of it, is that they don't accomplish anything. They just end up drawing attention to themselves. They don't advance the pro-White cause.

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    2. Oh no, it doesn't "accomplish anything" besides the MASSIVE amount of traffic we have going to sites like the Daily Stormer and literally millions and millions of dollars of free advertising that has effectively awakened untold millions of white people.

      Try again.

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    3. Big traffic to Daily Stormer doesn't advance pro-White cause. It just gets them personal attention.

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    4. In fact, if Daily Stormer isn't controlled by the other side, I would be shocked. All their "propaganda" conforms to the ADL and SPLC's stereotypes. It's like how a liberal Jewish guy thinks pro-Whites talk.

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    5. Start being shocked. What Daily Stormer does is use humor, truth and a stanch pro white message to attract whites by the MILLIONS to the UNDENIABLE FACT that the Jews are using minorities to EXTERMINATE WHITES.

      The average racial view at DS is similar to whites looked at the world for thousands of years until the "Jews" took control of the lever of power in the west.

      You can't have a pro white cause without pointing out the JEW for God's sake! It's like demanding to talk about ships but refusing to mention the word water dufus!

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  5. i am not many miles away from you (my state's southern border is your state's northern border).
    most of us (especially me) can't make our brains labor to think alt-right vs alt-light vs alt-west, etc. splitting all those hairs is for folks with IQs above 140. which does not include many voters. most of us can think "alt-right," but please don't give us any more distinctions beyond that!

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  6. Ramz either you or your shadowy group behind you are really fucking smart people. Literally 90% of the Midwest could get behibd your message. I hope your just a vice pusshound but suspect you are a wolf in sheeps clothing.

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  7. Well said, RamZ. This is exactly what I needed to hear from you. I didn't know about the Black Flag info regarding previous Neonazi movements; so I can see why you might think Anglin is a plant.

    But when I followed Daily Stormer I'd been tracking it practically since it started, and I don't remember Anglin disavowing the Alt-Right. And FYI, they actually talk a lot about the nuts and bolts of National Socialism. Although that's more the speciality of Sven Longshanks and Grandpa Lampshade.

    Speaking for myself, I don't have any more patience for psycho delusions. Trash fags and brag about Western Civ? You're a dumbass. There wouldn't be one without the other. You want to let In millions of Muslims?!! Here's your ticket to Pakistan and some moving money. Now go frack off.

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  8. RamZPaul is right. There is definitely some suspicious activity among a few of these groups. I don't mean Richard Spencer by the way.

    But guys who are into getting attention for themselves often make missteps for the cause.

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  9. The funny thing is that HippiePaul is happy to be associated with Harold Covington, who was Frank Collin's #2 and succeeded him as leader of the National Socialist Party of America, and then formed his own Hollywood Nazi group in the 1990s.

    HippiePaul made that video with Tubby shortly before he started denouncing Hollywood Nazis and "1488ers." The hypocrisy is astounding.

    "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"

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    1. I think that RamzPaul approves of Harold Covington's creation of a homeland for our people, but he does not necessarily agree with everything Covington says.

      Likewise, I do not agree with Covington's embracing of Hitler, but I do agree with self-determination, which only a homeland would provide for us.

      I think Covington's embracing of Hitler and other aspects of the 30's and 40's Germany is one factor that will prevent his group from ever succeeding in creating the homeland in the northwest. He should have left any of the Nazi talk out and he would have been better off.

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    2. No clue why RamzPaul embraced Covington. I don't think he has a "group". After decades, I believe all he has is a PO Box to accept donations.

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  10. I try to stay away from anyone who gives the Nazi salute and who constantly talks approvingly of the Nazis. I've always believed that they are trying to discredit pro-white activism. The overwhelming majority of our people do not want to associate with anyone who is pro-Hitler. If a very, very tiny majority of our people who engage in foolish behavior think that it will rehabilitate the Third Reich and Hitler, they are very mistaken.

    I do not, however, believe the Alt Right is finished. If a couple of fools doing the Nazi salute is enough to destroy a movement, then the movement was weak from the beginning. But I believe the ideas of the Alt Right are solid and that eventually we could use this movement to push for freedom of association and self-determination for everyone.

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    1. i agree 100% with your 2nd paragraph - well said.
      especially: "the ideas of the Alt Right are solid."
      that is the main take home point!

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    2. "If a very, very tiny majority of our people who engage in foolish behavior think that it will rehabilitate the Third Reich and Hitler, they are very mistaken."

      First, I would point out that rehabilitating the Third Reich and Hitler is not our job, that is for the Germany people to sort out. But that being said, one might want to step back and consider the big picture.

      The parallels between Weimar Germany and the USA of today are striking. What is happening to America and our culture is a result of the same Jewish program that turned what had previously been a conservative Imperial Germany into a cess pool of sexual and social deviancy. The USA has been molded into a form that benefits the interests of Jews at the expense of the American population.

      The reason why most people recoil at anything associated with National Socialism is because Jewish power has spent the last 70 years brainwashing us to believe that National Socialism is pure evil. Paul clearly understands that there is nothing wrong with the ideology of National Socialism itself, save the Jewish propaganda demonizing it.

      The truth is that Jewish power is going to demonize any White nationalist movement because such movements are direct threat to their privileged position and power. Does anyone really not understand that should the Alt Right achieve any real success that it too will be demonized in exactly the same way?

      While it is not "our goal" to rehabilitate the Third Reich, if we are eventually successful that rehabilitation will follow naturally...because the principles of the Alt Right are very similar to those of National Socialism.

      Therein lays the rub...Yes we should avoid running around with swastikas and other such nonsense, but we can never allow ourselves to be goaded into attacking or otherwise disavowing the principles of National Socialism because to do so would be to disavow our own core principles.

      Our eventual victory is predicated upon our winning the propaganda war for the hearts and minds of the American people. The good news is that these Jewish smears of "anti-Semitism" or "Nazis" and the like have already lost most of their power to persuade people.

      Look at Trump, he was slandered non-stop by the entire MSM for months and months, yet he filled stadiums everywhere he went. One of the most important things Trump has done is to reveal that these smears only have power IF YOU GIVE THEM POWER. One can ignore them with impunity today.

      Regardless of what rhetoric we might find tactically useful at any given point in time, we should never forget that this is not just a struggle FOR a new direction, it is primarily a struggle AGAINST a hostile foreign elite that rules over us... We cannot win this struggle within our enemies narrative. We win this struggle by supplanting their narrative with our own. So rather than worrying about what names we are called, we should focus on getting out OUR message and redefining the world according to OUR narrative.

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  11. The example you gave when talking about punching to the right put you in a bad position and people got confused. The best example of punching to the right is calling republicans - people from the right - "cuckservatives". Another example of punching to the right is criticizing Christians. Even "nazis" do this kind of punching to the right.

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      No you're confusing people. Most republicans are not actually on the right. Their rhetoric maybe, but their actions are leftist hence they deserve the label cuck. As for 'Christians', many, most today have lost any righteousness they had having sold out or laid down in face of the left marching through once throughly rightist, throughly paleo Christian institutions.

      As time goes on, the left keeps gobbling up the right to where what some people (mostly leftists) call the "right" is really leftist and a good example of that is when Ramz once said "Give it some time and Republicans will be talking about our historically sacred believe in gay marriage.

      Thus, it's ok to punch to what is really the left and that's what I was doing earlier speaking with Ramz because the context in which we are conversing is within the realm of those who call themselves Alt Right but truth is, the real Alt Right (majority) have no problem calling out the Jew who's the white man's root problem the world over, a "people" to whom people like Ramz refuse to call out as such but rather fold when facing their MSM slanders and demonizations of us because they have no actual intelligent retort to our positions.

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    2. There is no "right" or "left", these are constructs of the binary narrative provided to us by Jewish power. These notions of right/left have no real meaning in the real world. What does exist in the real world are peoples and their interests.

      As Whites, we have common interests that are neither right or left. Is quality health care for all of our people really a leftist notion? No, it is a vital interest of our people. This interest exists independently of political ideology. What about free enterprise? Is this really a "right wing" idea? No, it is a vital interest of our people that we should enjoy economic freedom to engage in free enterprise and it also exists independently of political ideology.

      We should not accept the notion that one must be either right or left, that one cannot support both free enterprise AND quality health care for all our people. These are mutually exclusive positions within the right/left paradigm, but not in the real world of people and their interests.

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    3. Jews are not the White man's root problem. There are Jews who openly state they hate White people, that is true.

      But it is White race-traitors who are the ROOT problem. If a Jew is my enemy, then so be it. I expect no loyalty from him. But a White person who supports White Genocide is truly the lowest form of traitor.

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  12. Hal Turner never pretended to be a national-socialist or even a "neo-nazi." Turner is a conservative racist, basically, who wanted to be like Bob Grant. What Turner said about Blacks and Jews generally were his real views. I know this because he said those things before the FBI hired him, and in his shows from the past year he is saying a lot of it again.

    When I say that he is conservative, I mean that he respects laws and authority and that he subscribed to the mainstream "conservative" ideology of individual responsibility.

    The crooked part was when he encouraged people to break the law. FBI paid him to do THAT. As a conservative, he could rationalize that people who break the law deserve whatever they get, because this is how conservatives think.

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  13. Kooks and deplorables? Every movement has it's fringe less worry re leftist opinions of alt right more work promoting message to masses.

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